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DragonMinded



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morals are supposed to be a personal thing, not a national thing. You could argue that it is a nation's responsibility to reflect the majority of the morals, but not the other way around. One person shouldn't be telling anyone else what's right or wrong past the law.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DragonMinded wrote:
Morals are supposed to be a personal thing, not a national thing. You could argue that it is a nation's responsibility to reflect the majority of the morals, but not the other way around. One person shouldn't be telling anyone else what's right or wrong past the law.
But one person is telling everyone else wahts right or wrong, his name is TEH POPE, hes closer to god then all of us meng!1111 fuck catholics.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pope is telling catholics waht is expected of them and their morals because of their affiliation to the catholic church. Noone told you to sit and listen to the pope, he is talking to catholics only.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that would be fine and acceptable to more people with regards to the Pope if he didn't try to stick his hands in our government. When he does that, he's not just talking to Catholics, he's meddling with everybody in the United States.

Note though, not all Catholics worship the Pope. Some in the faith hold him high, while others don't.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuck the pope
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DragonMinded



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bow chika bowoww?

The pope should not tell anyone how to run a country. He is a religious symbol that is supposed to lead the catholic faith, not comment on government.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, and that's probably the main reason you'll see people say "fuck the pope." He did a real good job influencing Bush to limit the funding on stem cell research.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people ask me why I’m not religious. Why I don’t really believe in any one set religion. They think it’s simply absurd that I don’t believe in “God” or some higher power. But you know what I think is absurd? How people can believe so fully in a so called “higher being” who supposedly loves his or her people so much. And yet. There is so much pain in the world. And yet. Evil tends to prevail over good too much. And the best people in the world are always the ones to suffer. Suffering should not be a part of life.

If there is a God, why are the good punished? Because no fucking “loving” God would ever make a person with such faith and such compassion for others go through this shit.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thrice wrote:

If there is a God, why are the good punished? Because no fucking “loving” God would ever make a person with such faith and such compassion for others go through this shit.


That's one reason that I don't believe in god. There is also some other reasons though.

God knows everything, right? So how come he has to "test" them?

How come, often, religon ends up causing violence rather than good?

Think about how long our planet has exsisted. Think about how long life without humans has exsisted on this planet before humans walked the earth? Did those animals practice religon?

Now think about Humans. Think about how long it was BEFORE our modern religons arrived in comparison to how long cave men with different religons were around? So, does this mean that god expects creatures to only live with knowledge of the "true" religon, whatever that may be, for only a very short period of time? (Short in comparison remember.) Looking at things this way, it seems unlikely that there would be a god, or at the very least that our religons are the true.

This reason may be contridicted for the reason I have very little knowledge of religons. My whole family doesn't believe in god... for the first reason I mentioned and the reason that the person I quoted mentioned.
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The big bang hardly seems like an absurd thery. I think it makes tons of sense. First, remember that there is some evedence that the big bang happned. We can track energy from it even today.

It's true that we don't know what ultimately started the big bang, but that may change in time too. Here is one very obscure thery that I've heard about, for example. Suppose that parrelel universes exsist? What would happen when two of those universes collode?

It's true that science and religion don't conflict. However, I think eventually, a loooong time from now, that too may change. Science and religion HAVE conflicted in the past also. For example, I believe their was a controversy over the fact that planets move in eleptical orbits...
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